Aug 01, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37
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Hall Hero
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Funny thing is? I was and i still am a big fan of Warcraft 3 and teh graphics... It has that cartoony style, but the graphics looks more... "realistic"? does that make sense?
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It doesn't make a whole lot of sense...It might've been too hard to tell since most of the time you saw them from quite a ways away. In WoW, you're seeing them up close, etc. But I know where you're coming from.
Illidan doesn't look terribly cartoony to me, though...Reminds me a bit of Legend.
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Aug 01, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45
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#182
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Earth, mostly
Guild: Hotties Of Ascolonian Rule
Profession: Mo/Me
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yes. I think that's perfectly legit. I immediately understand how much of the game you've seen and your opinion of it.
BTW you missed the point of my question. One guy on this thread said he did nothing more than look at WoW and knew he'd never play it. So are you gonna hound him and attempt to revoke his right to an opinion too?
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Aug 01, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02
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#183
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Earth, mostly
Guild: Hotties Of Ascolonian Rule
Profession: Mo/Me
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Originally Posted by Miral
The key difference of course being that WoW has 9 million subscribers who also like what they're doing... if a million people complain then sure, they'd consider changing it up. but if only a hundred people have problems with the newbie experience, then ya, they're probably not going to exert the effort to change it.
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So you're inadvertently dissmissive, alledging that my demographic is no more than 100 or so people. How glib.
9 million? Is this double counting the original and the can't-play-it-without-the-original expansion? At least GW counts its numbers the way the do due to the fact that their expansions are stand alones. Where does 9 million come from. Haven't ever heard that figure before. Why not 10? Do I hear 12?
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Aug 01, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15
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#184
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: Me/
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
As for the game shops listening to your input, I have no experience with blizzard so I won't evaluate them. SOE was the worst. They pretended to listen and then produced nerfs when they couldn't ever provide evidence of them being requested. They blatantly went their own direction regardless of the player input. Anet has, in my experience, been hands-down, the most actively communicating and responsive game maker I've ever purchased. But I also think that the evaluation has to go beyond "I asked them for X and they never put it in the game." A macro-perspective is what is relevant, and from all the evidence I can gather Anet is stupendous in this regard.
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Had to comment here because in my personal experience, ANET does a very poor job of taking care of its players, and their real concerns and seems to more do what they want and give people just that little bit to string them along a bit more... They've made some very poor choices that have led to some bad outcomes in the game and they "band-aid" it and move on instead of dealing with the problem. Ill use the example of PvP cause thats a large chunk of the game thats been ignored for a loooooong time now. PvP has been garbage for about a year now, little things were bad before but its snowballed into some serious problems and they ANET added some changes and pretty much any decent PvPer will tell you that almost all facets of PvP need skill balances or mechanic changes and theyre all very intelligently spelled out in the forums (some multiple times) and yet no word from the PR or anyone at anet, infact some of the things theyve done have made the already existing problems WORSE... also trading/selling in this game has been a tedious tiresome detestible thing since the games inception and everyone eveywhere has wanted a better way to do so, instead nothing, or a "band-aid" like PS window that only seems better cause the alternative is like hot pokers in your eyes.
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
I wouldn’t have taken any issue in this regard if you had said "I should have PS3 to replace my Nintendo 64 graphics because it looks better." That would be much closer to the difference in graphics quality between GW and WoW. But hey, if you can't tell the difference, ignorance is bliss. Camp away in cartoon-land.
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Well what I was trying to express is that the difference is only visual, and the game itself is what should really be important, not the looks. I still get the Movie watchig experience from my DVDs, theyre not suddenly bad cause its not the best visual quality in the world. And seriously if you were pounding on your ol' Commadore or Kalieco Vision back in the day WoW should still be impressive.
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
I really don't see how all this adds up to lack of experience. My evaluation isn't of ALL the content that is in WoW. It's a reflection of the admittedly small amount of it I could tolerate. Now provide an argument that substantiates that my evaluation of that portion of the game is not a valid judgment.
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Well ok since I just started playing WoW myself for 2 weeks now. I had never played it before ever. I have a lvl 31 character and a lvl 24 character. I didnt just blast through things and grind my way there as fast as possible, although second time through its only taken 5 days to get that character to lvl 24 now that im not a total noob. I like a good RPG so ill do everything I can. I did the quests(looooots of quests), read the story, picked up the little books you find along the way and read the back story. I've killed monsters in the water on land, gone hunting for herbs/mineral/items scattered about the world, earned new skills/abilities, worked on my professions (i.e blacksmithing, mining, potion-making etc, indirect character development stuff), made money on the auction house, run low lvl instances for good items for my level, saved complete strangers out in the wild when they had a mob of monsters chasing them, and been murdered by bloodthirsty PvPers who like nothing more than to watch my corpse pop and sizzle.
Now I dont see where your "this game is crap" statement can really hold water. If you like GW PVE, then this stuff should be WAAAAAAY more interesting.
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So what you're saying is that I can take your wife on 2 different 14 day vacations and diddle her an average of 6 hours a day the whole duration of the vacation and then come back and say "The amount of time I've spent diddling your wife is zero. No judgment can be made about whether or not we did, in fact, diddle, because, over all, neither of us have spent enough of our lives diddling to be authoritative on what it is. Sorry I'm only a level 8 diddler so I can't definitely say." Your wife better be hot because I'm showing up on your doorstep tomorrow. Tell her to pack her lingerie.
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If you thought my analogy was bad... doesnt matter how you twist it though if you only spend 14 days on WoW and got to lvl 8 (reguardless of how many times) youre not fit to judge the game, and in fact id think you did something wrong, went to wrong higher lvl areas or didnt take/search for stuff, or read the objectives, to have done so little to that point in the game, and remade the characters so many times, with that much time.
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
FF beat GW... sorry I missed how this was relevant to the discussion of innovation. I'd classify GW as an MMO, not an MMORPG. Over the existence of the genre I would agree that FF (Final Fantasy, right? But is FF an MMO?) is unmatched, but as for recent innovations I still feel GW is top innovator.
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Well all a game need to be classified as an MMO is have players who play it online hence "Massive Multi-player Online" but that doesnt say what type of game it is and GW is undoubtedly an RPG, cant deny that at all... And ANET has done nothing really innovative with the RPG game except for balanced PvP in the begining (which is fubar now) and a free to play buisness model... and if game quality reflects the buisness model, it dissapoints me personally.
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
A 15th level grouping with a 5th level is still power-leveling.
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Ok then it will please you to know that the lvl 5 will get the same amount of exp as if he were with a lvl 70 is he was with a lvl 15  . I think the cut off is like 3-5 levels above you and that wont make a signifigant difference in WoW.
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
Interesting that you exclude monks from the rest. Was that because my ID on the thread says I play a monk? BTW I also have a highly accomplished warrior and elementalist and I have to disagree with your evaluation completely.
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I've played GW since it was just a BETA. I have made and beat the game(s) with all character classes and only excluded monks because since their smite att got nerrfed all to uselessness they arent damage dealers at all, theyre stricly support protting or healing I didnt even notice that the thing next to your name said monk didnt even look honestly. So yeah areas in like the deep where theres massive party-wide degen would have to take that into consideration as the monk.
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
Tell that to the group of 20th level idiots my 12th level mesmer grouped with the other night... I out-survived them all and then forced them to either bail from the mission or wait for the next 1/2 hour while I successfully soloed it to completion.
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I have a hard time believing this unless youre were playing with a bunch of 8 year olds or whatever. and even then what no res sig?
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Aug 01, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15
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#185
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Hall Hero
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
BTW you missed the point of my question. One guy on this thread said he did nothing more than look at WoW and knew he'd never play it. So are you gonna hound him and attempt to revoke his right to an opinion too?
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Why would I? He's not saying how much the game sucks, the "flaws" of it, or how poorly designed it is. He said that he just didn't like the style of it, and I can't argue with that.
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
At least GW counts its numbers the way the do due to the fact that their expansions are stand alones.
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We dunno how much of each campaign has been sold, though. That's something I'd like to hear.
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
Where does 9 million come from.
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It comes from here: http://www.blizzard.com/press/070724.shtml
Unless you're asking where the subscribers are coming from, I think DreamRunner mentioned it somewhere earlier in this thread.
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Aug 01, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Cheltenham, Glos, UK
Guild: Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]
Profession: R/A
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense...It might've been too hard to tell since most of the time you saw them from quite a ways away. In WoW, you're seeing them up close, etc. But I know where you're coming from.
Illidan doesn't look terribly cartoony to me, though...Reminds me a bit of Legend.
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Aye... but being a tabletop gamer, I'm noticing similar things with warhammer Online aswell...
Looks great, but that damn cartoonyness still creeps in...
On another note though, i give kudos to blizzard for the complete sledgehammer tactic of marketting WoW as they have... hell, most Wow kiddies don't even know there are other MMO's because they were so light on numbers and Euro/American coverage before WoW
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Aug 03, 2007, 06:05 AM // 06:05
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: W/
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[QUOTE=Bryant Again]Yeah. It's a good thing, actually.
So you're just going to pick on that and miss my point? k I'll be a little more specific: I've never partied with the same RANDOM person twice.
Right. So, you don't really connect with more people around the world in International district. They're there more for people who know each other
Yes it is divided among it's outposts. And it's territories. And the U.S, Austrailia and New Zealand does not equal "the whole world".
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I am not saying I'm playing with everyone in the world in WoW. My Horde server isn't very large. But it is so easy to communicate with everyone on my server, and that's what's important.
Like I said, if I can play with the whole world, I don't care as long as I'm able to connect with them. Guild Wars does not provide that.
Only six times. If you could switch as many times as you'd want, I'd be on your side and agreeing with you completely. I too would be saying "You can play with the world!" But you can only switch six times. I really would like to say that you play with the whole world, I really do. But it's just very hard to achieve, and not worth mentioning.
Yes, there's PvP, but how many people pick up this game for that?
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As I said, that sucks that you haven't had that experience of grouping with someone else randomly and keep on playing together.
If that was case of people only going to international district, then thats only because of people's mindset like yours. Who's stopping people to go to international district to meet others?
/facepalm If the population is divided by its outposts, then WoW is divided again more so by its zones. Or by its towns and cities. But no, WoW's population of the server is not divided by zones because you are already connect to people on the server. Just like in GW, you are connect to people in the whole region. You can still whisper people in GW in the whole region, by you can whisper to other people in other servers in WoW.
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
It's a well-known fact in WoW that level 70 =/= Highly skilled. The only thing that truly shows your skill is your gear, which can only be obtained by doing instances, which can only be completed by playing well.
Basically, it's easier to "fake it" in Guild Wars than it is in WoW.
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No way! All gear means in WoW is time, time to be by playing more WoW than others, time to raid that takes ages. Time to collect materials which takes ages to get. I think this is why people call WoW a grind. Grind for experience, grind for materials, grind for items. It never ends. Someone who has top notch items means that person has played WoW more than others.
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Aug 03, 2007, 06:37 AM // 06:37
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#188
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/retired
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the Beach
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I'm in your thread - beating a dead horse.
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Aug 03, 2007, 06:48 AM // 06:48
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#189
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Hall Hero
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Originally Posted by DreamRunner
Right. So, you don't really connect with more people around the world in International district. They're there more for people who know each other
Yes it is divided among it's outposts. And it's territories. And the U.S, Austrailia and New Zealand does not equal "the whole world".
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Aight, cool. Gettin' somewhere.
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As I said, that sucks that you haven't had that experience of grouping with someone else randomly and keep on playing together.
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My point was mostly about me never really bumping into/seeing them again. Sorry, I should've been more specific.
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If that was case of people only going to international district, then thats only because of people's mindset like yours.
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Then I guess many others have the same mindset since no one's in there ever.
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Who's stopping people to go to international district to meet others?
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See above.
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/facepalm If the population is divided by its outposts, then WoW is divided again more so by its zones. Or by its towns and cities.
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No way. The number of GW's instanced areas and outposts is faaaar more than WoW's areas and dungeons. I don't see how you could think otherwise.
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But no, WoW's population of the server is not divided by zones because you are already connect to people on the server. Just like in GW, you are connect to people in the whole region.
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But you're able to connect moreso with the people in your server in WoW. In Guild Wars, you're only able to connect with people in outposts.
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No way! All gear means in WoW is time, time to be by playing more WoW than others, time to raid that takes ages. Time to collect materials which takes ages to get. I think this is why people call WoW a grind. Grind for experience, grind for materials, grind for items. It never ends. Someone who has top notch items means that person has played WoW more than others.
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You'll still need to know wtf you're doing if you're going to progress through the game. I guess that's what I meant. The same can be said of Guild Wars, that it takes no skill, only experience - and that doesn't really mean it's a bad thing.
Edited cus I typed a dumb sentance.
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Aug 03, 2007, 12:53 PM // 12:53
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#190
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Does it matter?
Guild: Im to good for guilds
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this is really sad.. lets compare 2 games which are not similar
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Aug 03, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Guild: Ray
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that article sucks, all they ppl interviewed are pve scrubs.
and according to that article the only reason ppl prefer GW over WOW is the price. it sounds like "Yeah, WoW is a better game, but it costs so much more so ppl play GW since they can't afford WoW".
WoW = 1/10 PvP, 4/10 PvE
GW = 10/10 PvP, 2/10 PvE
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Aug 03, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57
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#192
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Originally Posted by jackie
I'm in your thread - beating a dead horse.
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Yeah, I'd say that pretty much sums it all up.
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Aug 04, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: W/
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Aight, cool. Gettin' somewhere.
My point was mostly about me never really bumping into/seeing them again. Sorry, I should've been more specific.
Then I guess many others have the same mindset since no one's in there ever.
See above.
No way. The number of GW's instanced areas and outposts is faaaar more than WoW's areas and dungeons. I don't see how you could think otherwise.
But you're able to connect moreso with the people in your server in WoW. In Guild Wars, you're only able to connect with people in outposts.
You'll still need to know wtf you're doing if you're going to progress through the game. I guess that's what I meant. The same can be said of Guild Wars, that it takes no skill, only experience - and that doesn't really mean it's a bad thing.
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That was your quote! What I say in my post doesn't start untill your 2nd reply, so lets start there.
No one is there? Then why do I see 5-10 people each time I go to Kaineng Centre? But more importantly do you honestly think by just connecting to the international district that you meet people overseas? Or just by GW?! They're are 3rd party forums, people who take other interests who are over the world.
Connect moreso? So, in GW you can connect to a WHOLE region of players but it's worse than a limited amount of a server? And then again, where do the majority of players meet in WoW? I say cities and towns. But no, you do not connect to people only by outposts, you got guilds, hell even GW has alliances to form a chain of guilds. People connect to each other via other means other than GW all the time and GW allows people who connect via other to play with each other with existing characters without resorting to the grind of leveling another whole character, grind to get more materials for that character and then you cant connect these characters EVER.
If you only took experience as to be "good" in Guild Wars, then you have a extremely high amount people who are good in Guild Wars PvP. But no, you dont have that at all. In fact to be good in Guild Wars PvP takes an a lot more than just "experience".
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Aug 04, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52
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#194
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Hall Hero
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Originally Posted by DreamRunner
That was your quote! What I say in my post doesn't start untill your 2nd reply, so lets start there.
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Oh. It sounded like you were agreeing with me.
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No one is there? Then why do I see 5-10 people each time I go to Kaineng Centre.
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I guess I was in the mindset for a moment that no one's in the international districts for missions, save for a few occasional exceptions. While most of the time there isn't more than three people in the city int. dists, at times there are a handful of people, and maybe even one or two that'll talk to you.
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They're are 3rd party forums, people who take other interests who are over the world.
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So the game doesn't connect you to people in the world? You have to resort to forums in order to meet people across seas and in other regions?
Sounds to me like you're saying it's the forums that connect people, not the game. That's different.
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Connect moreso? So, in GW you can connect to a WHOLE region of players but it's worse than a limited amount of a server?
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Yes it is worse, because you're not connected to a whole region, you're seperated by outposts.
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And then again, where do the majority of players meet in WoW?
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LFG feature. Welcome to WoW 2.0.1.
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But no, you do not connect to people only by outposts, you got guilds,
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Not everyone has a guild, not every guild has an alliance, nor are people in an alliance with guilds in different regions.
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...and then you cant connect these characters EVER.
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This is pretty confusing, and you should emphazise on and explain this, so I'll do it for you: In WoW, when you make a new character, it's pretty much like having a new account in Guild Wars. Your new character won't be in the same guild, have the same friends list, and people don't know it's you.
Regarding "not being able to ever connect to these characters", that's really up to the person making the character. They could just be like "hey guys, I'm going to go get my other guy, is name is Suchnsuch. Invite him, okay?" And if he doesn't want to do that, then maybe he just wants some privacy or alone time, or for other reasons.
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If you only took experience as to be "good" in Guild Wars, then you have a extremely high amount people who are good in Guild Wars PvP. But no, you dont have that at all. In fact to be good in Guild Wars PvP takes an a lot more than just "experience".
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First, I'm going to ask you to stop assuming so much about me. And secondly, I was talking about Guild Wars PvE. I've already stated this. If we're going to compare WoW PvE to Guild Wars PvP, then we both need to stop posting. Guild Wars PvE is not so different from WoW, so you're able to compare the two. The GW PvP, not so much. Too different to compare.
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Aug 04, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mt Vernon, Ohio
Guild: Band of the Hawk
Profession: W/Mo
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WoW vs GW vs FreeCell ... FreeCell has the sharpest graphics!
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Aug 05, 2007, 06:07 PM // 18:07
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: W/
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Oh. It sounded like you were agreeing with me.
I guess I was in the mindset for a moment that no one's in the international districts for missions, save for a few occasional exceptions. While most of the time there isn't more than three people in the city int. dists, at times there are a handful of people, and maybe even one or two that'll talk to you.
So the game doesn't connect you to people in the world? You have to resort to forums in order to meet people across seas and in other regions?
Sounds to me like you're saying it's the forums that connect people, not the game. That's different.
Yes it is worse, because you're not connected to a whole region, you're seperated by outposts.
LFG feature. Welcome to WoW 2.0.1.
Not everyone has a guild, not every guild has an alliance, nor are people in an alliance with guilds in different regions.
This is pretty confusing, and you should emphazise on and explain this, so I'll do it for you: In WoW, when you make a new character, it's pretty much like having a new account in Guild Wars. Your new character won't be in the same guild, have the same friends list, and people don't know it's you.
Regarding "not being able to ever connect to these characters", that's really up to the person making the character. They could just be like "hey guys, I'm going to go get my other guy, is name is Suchnsuch. Invite him, okay?" And if he doesn't want to do that, then maybe he just wants some privacy or alone time, or for other reasons.
First, I'm going to ask you to stop assuming so much about me. And secondly, I was talking about Guild Wars PvE. I've already stated this. If we're going to compare WoW PvE to Guild Wars PvP, then we both need to stop posting. Guild Wars PvE is not so different from WoW, so you're able to compare the two. The GW PvP, not so much. Too different to compare.
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My point wasn't that you didn't have to resort to forums at all. The 3rd party forum was an example. My point was that when people do connect via other means, GW allows these people to meet up whether they are from the UK, U.S, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand. WoW does not.
So people do meet mostly in cities and towns, yes? For stuff like Auction houses, merchants, smithing, buying skills or whatever reason.
If we are not connected to a whole region, and only by outposts then how come I have the chance to connect to every player? Can I not whisper to another player either he is doing GvG, The Deep, Titans quest, TA, RA, AB, Abbadons Mouth mission.
I was in Kame who at the time was in a Japanese alliance. Kame is a guild in the U.S region. You could ask Unko or Mr Kisses who was the leader of Kame for a bit, if you doubt this.
And not everyone is in a guild in WoW but that is beside the point. The point is people more than often have a chance to join a guild, guilds have a chance to form an alliance to connect to more people. I am NOT saying at all that in GW you connect to more than WoW. I am emphasizing the point that you do NOT connect to people only in outposts.
Thanks, I was worried about it since I've explained about the same point over and over again and was afraid that people or you didn't catch on. The same point being that WoW's U.S population is broken up into 100+ servers. The same point that you have to create another character to connect to other people in different servers.
But wait, can you invite a person's character on the same account on a different server to a guild? I didn't think you could. Thats what I was pointing out.
Since when has WoW and GW PvE so different to any MMO? Nearly every online RPG has levels, quests, spells, attacks, magic, evil, good, races, classes. All the basics. But talking about connectivity with others which I've stated above.
But I wasn't assuming your experience of GW, if you took it like that. However, I was just pointing out that GW takes more than "experience". Which has been done, so i'll leave it there.
I'm done with this thread. I really don't feel like saying the same stuff over again, so yeah. Its been fun while its lasted though.
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Aug 05, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47
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My point wasn't that you didn't have to resort to forums at all. The 3rd party forum was an example. My point was that when people do connect via other means, GW allows these people to meet up whether they are from the UK, U.S, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand. WoW does not.
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If we are not connected to a whole region, and only by outposts then how come I have the chance to connect to every player? Can I not whisper to another player either he is doing GvG, The Deep, Titans quest, TA, RA, AB, Abbadons Mouth mission.
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I am emphasizing the point that you do NOT connect to people only in outposts.
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I'm putting these three posts together because I can ask the same question to each of them: How do you find these people in the first place? How do you meet these people in Europe? How do you find a guild? You have to connect through outposts FIRST before you can have this connectivity with your guild, alliance, etc.
Then there's the problem of having to find people for a mission/etc. when everyone in your guild is either busy or would rather not do it, but that's not the gist of what we're talking about.
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So people do meet mostly in cities and towns, yes? For stuff like Auction houses, merchants, smithing, buying skills or whatever reason.
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People go into towns to do just that, go to ther merchant, skill traders, wherever. People don't go there to find people, i.e. if I'm looking for a group for a mission, I'll just use the LFG feature along with the channel and quest while I wait for a group.
There are people in the cities, yes. But they're not there to meet people, just to find skills. And if they bump into an interesting conversation or they meet a friend on the way, cool.
I will add that the trade channel in WoW is kinda cool, since you can talk to people from every city. That's some pretty cool connectivity there.
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Originally Posted by DreamRunner
I was in Kame who at the time was in a Japanese alliance. Kame is a guild in the U.S region. You could ask Unko or Mr Kisses who was the leader of Kame for a bit, if you doubt this.
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I'll re-word it, if it'll help: Not everyone has a guild, not everyone is in an alliance, and not everyone is in an alliance that has guilds from different regions. They are relatively uncommon, though, especially if you're a PvEr.
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Thanks, I was worried about it since I've explained about the same point over and over again and was afraid that people or you didn't catch on. The same point being that WoW's U.S population is broken up into 100+ servers. The same point that you have to create another character to connect to other people in different servers.
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I've explained MY point, over and over again, that your connectivity to your region is limited by outposts, which it is. While yes, you can increase the amount of people you connect with in a guild or alliance, you're still greatly isolated from anyone else.
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But wait, can you invite a person's character on the same account on a different server to a guild? I didn't think you could. Thats what I was pointing out.
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You didn't mention anything about creating a character on a different server. Why would you want to roll on a different server when you can have 10 characters per server? The only reason I can think of is if the person wanted some privacy, alone time, etc. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Since when has WoW and GW PvE so different to any MMO? Nearly every online RPG has levels, quests, spells, attacks, magic, evil, good, races, classes. All the basics. But talking about connectivity with others which I've stated above.
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I'm saying they're not. What I AM saying is that it's not terribly smart to compare WoW PvE to Guild Wars PvP, which is what you did.
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But I wasn't assuming your experience of GW, if you took it like that. However, I was just pointing out that GW takes more than "experience". Which has been done, so i'll leave it there.
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For PvP? Sure, it takes some skill. Just like WoW's PvP. For PvE? Not so much. Both take the same amount of "skill", i.e. being able to know what's going to happen, be it patrol paths and whatnot.
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Aug 06, 2007, 07:57 AM // 07:57
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I dunt even get "Retired"
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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This thread is done bashing its head against the wall.
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